he's 22 years old. my mission president said, scott, seniority's about not age or time and service, it's about creativity, innovation, and it's about new leadership. and that's what we need in washington, d.c. today. we need new leadership that looks at this differently. we cannot continue to perpetuate this seniority system that causes this 10% approval rating. ladies and gentlemen, 10% approval rating in our country is unacceptable. >> moderator: rebuttal, senator hatch? hatch: well, that's not caused by the seniority system, that's caused by the stupidity of some of the people back there, and it's caused primarily by liberals in the united states congress and, frankly, i think you'll find that if you go, if you were to go back there, you'd be right in the middle of a bunch of liberals who are not going to let you do anything but be liberal on your side, it's that simple. and that's where the gridlock has come. and we've got some on our side who want gridlock by everybody being conservative. we've got